I think that's a good philosophy for anyone whether they believe the Bible or not. a reasonable faith. MIKE LICONA: That's a great question, and the answer is we don't know a whole lot. As Descartes taught us long ago, I, at least, exist because if I doubt that I exist then who's doing the doubting? Sola scriptura is therefore consistent with the view that Andrews sought to articulate, though obviously sola scriptura does not imply the truth of his view. PROPOSITION: Is Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone) a reasonable method for understanding Christian orthodoxy? FACT: The “chair of Moses” was Moses’ teaching authority, according to ancient Jewish oral tradition. Reply. About the Bible. I'm hearing this and reading about this. You’ve described the label, sola Scriptura, but you’ve taken no care at all to look at what they meant by it. This resource has material suitable for all sorts of people from the honest sceptic seeking truth to the Christian living the life. . MIKE LICONA: If you're asking: Do I believe the Bible is divinely inspired? www.catholic.com Is it reasonable to believe the Christians should rely on the Bible alone as it's sole authority? We English-speakers aren't very good with the subjunctive mood, but it would be conditionals like this: If I were rich, I would buy a Mercedes Benz. Sola scriptura est la première expression des cinq solas à avoir été formulée. I returned to that issue around Question of the Week number 331[3] or so and treated it a second time. MODERATOR: Are there others that would like to come forward and ask a question? QUESTION: I guess my follow-up question would be why do these things persist? PROPOSITION: Did the bishops of the early Church consider their teaching authority to be guided and protected by the Holy Spirit for the good of the Church? Yet, the Book of Exodus itself never names these two magicians, nor does any other book of OT Scripture. FACT: 1 Timothy 3:15 calls the Church the “pillar and foundation of Truth.” Yet, Scripture alone is never called this; nor is Scripture ever considered authoritative when apart from the Church, which is guided by this same Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:20-21 & 2:1-3). Edward Feser: Feyerabend on empiricism and sola scriptura. Book Trent Now! By sola Scriptura Protestants mean that Scripture alone is the primary and absolute source for all doctrine and practice (faith and morals). In the course of the dialogue he finally admitted that, yes, I had succeeded in showing that there's no inconsistency between God's being all-loving and all-just and his issuing these commands to annihilate the Canaanites. A lot of scholars who think that it didn't appear there in John do think that the story is authentic. QUESTION: All of Scripture is God-breathed and there are no errors. Statement of Faith: Sola Scriptura 1. Obviously, the author was mistaken, at least about the timing of the Rapture…even after recalculating and predicting a new date several times. And I cannot imagine what sort of a defeater would fit that condition. Is “Sola Scriptura” reasonable? … If we accept there are some errors in the Bible then how is that authoritative in our lives? It means he's in the lineage of David not necessarily, in that case clearly not, “the son of.” Besides all that, there's a separate question of how old the Earth is and how old the cosmos is and so on. I think that's where we need to focus our efforts and our energy to defeat this idea that somehow it all came about with any intelligence, without design, without a Creator. FACT: The demonstration of “Eucharist as Sacrifice” this early (A.D. 90) not only puts Paul’s teaching in 1 Corinth 10:16-22 into perspective (as well as the other verses from 1 Corinth cited above), but also testifies to Paul’s use of the word “Tradition” in 1 Corinth 11:2 and 2 Thess 2:15. They would just sometimes hit high points in the different eras of that bloodline. FACT: Three of these oral Traditions documented in 1 Clement are: 1. Now, obviously, this Christian truth (aka, the Gospel) cannot be added to or subtracted from …but is confined to the Revelation we have from the Apostles. Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Hey! That's why the brackets are there and it says this is not found in the oldest or the most reliable manuscripts. The Theology Program at Bible.org seeks to keep the danger real, refusing to accept something just because someone else says it is true. I've never received to date a refutation of this from any atheist or Internet Infidel (that's what they call themselves). 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It's an attempt at having sensationalism. Common sense suggests that some sort of oral tradition was always needed to accompany the Written Law. Archived. FACT: The present canon of the New Testament was not determined until the year 397 A.D. at the Council of Carthage. This becomes especially striking when we realize that both St. Paul in 1 Corinthians and St. Clement here in 1 Clement are writing to the same city-church (within 35-40 years of each other); and that both these scriptures were read side-by-side by this church — both being considered Divinely-inspired by the Corinthians for 300 years! QUESTION: But it is not consistent in the passages. In our dialogue in Australia, Lawrence Krauss raised this issue. Let's love what's real; let's pursue what's right and what's true. (the Septuagint), how much more so could the Catholic Christian bishops at Carthage in 397 A.D. count on the Spirit of Truth! Signup with WebTalk – Earn Money Every Month Using Social Media. I mean, why can't we come up with what the answer is and then be done with it? That’s the bottom line. FACT: Yes it was. Take care, then, to use one Eucharist, so that whatever you do, you do according to God: for there is one Flesh of our Lord Jesus Christ, and one Cup in the union of His Blood; one altar, as there is one bishop with the presbytery and my fellow servants, the deacons.”. Apostolic succession; and 3. the Eucharist as a Sacrifice. He passed away a couple years ago; he was in World War II, a vet. SN: So, what we have at Leipzig really is that we’re beginning to see the plank of sola scriptura—that crucial plank of Reformation of theology—being laid down, and Eck brought this out in Luther. As difficult a reality as it may be for some to face, this foundational doctrine of Protestantism did not originate until the 14 th century and did not become widespread until the 16h century – a far, far cry time-wise from the teachings of Jesus Christ and His Apostles. Ultimately, I believe that Sola Scriptura is a doctrine that is untenable and unsustainable, and I will argue so in this post. Trent Horn discusses the issue with a Protestant caller on Catholic Answers Live. Can I just be really honest with you? The second-order claim (sola scriptura) denies that public revelation is found outside of Scripture after God ceased to disclose himself orally or textually to and for believers in general. It seems as if the demise of sola Scriptura has been highly exaggerated. Sola scriptura was the rallying cry of the Protestant Reformation. [1] Here’s part one, from Reasonable Faith. But in fact there are reasons why this is so. MARK MITTELBERG: Are you saying that one of the Ten Commandments says “thou shalt not kill” but then if God kills then he's breaking his own commandment? Catholic Church placed church tradition on equal ground with Scripture, and the Protestant reformers affirmed sola – only – Scripture. And he said, As I'm going through this and I'm writing this book and some other stories come to mind and I throw it in there so I go back and I insert these in, he said. Prédication sur Romains 13, en la Cathédrale d’Édimbourg, le 19 août 1565 : « En quelques mots, l’apôtre Paul déclare la finalité pour laquelle le glaive est donné aux puissances en disant que c’est “pour… For example, it is recorded in the Midrash Rabbah: “They made for him (Moses) a chair like that of the advocates, in which one sits and yet seems to be standing.” (Exodus Rabbah 43:4). I give what I think is a good answer to that, and they go to the next thing. We just don't know. QUESTION: In a way it would be a conflict that would show some sort of error within the way we have the Bible right now. The most ardent defender of Is "Sola Scriptura" reasonable? They're called counterfactuals because typically what they envision is not factual. FACT: The bishops who selected the final and universal canon of the New Testament were the successors of these men; and held fast to the same body of Tradition which Clement and Ignatius protected in the late 1st and early 2nd centuries. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. DR. CRAIG: I think what you're referring to is the idea that the universe is some sort of hologram. Sola scriptura (ablatif latin signifiant « par l'Écriture seule ») est une expression latine désignant le principe protestant selon lequel la Bible est une autorité en elle-même, à laquelle les chrétiens, c'est-à-dire l'Église, se soumettent ; l'idée contraire, c'est-à-dire la Bible soumise à l'Église n'étant pas possible. In Matthew 23, Jesus proclaims that the scribes and Pharisees have the authority to teach and guide because they are the successors of Moses for the Jewish people; and that the Jews should “do and observe all the things whatsoever they tell you.”. Do I believe it's without any error? Therefore, we bring even the statements of Ecumenical Councils before the bar of Scripture. Also, in his Epistle to the Philadelphians 3:2-4:1, which says: “Take care, then who belong to God and to Jesus Christ – they are with the bishop. MODERATOR: It sounds like what you are arguing is it seems inconsistent. If you read the Bible you might literally take it as six, seven, eight, maybe ten thousand years. Q: Just the Apostles, or to the entire Church as well? Our Mission: Reasonable Faith aims to provide a subreddit which focuses on: * Philosophical and … Press J to jump to the feed. ……Our sin will not be small if we eject from the episcopate those who blamelessly and holily have offered its Sacrifices.”. Enjoying this content? And he came out saying, I just don't know. The Doctrine of Sola Scriptura Did Not Exist Prior to the 14 th Century. I was going to ask what your opinions on this particular matter were, and how do you deal with questions about that? They seem self-evidently ludicrous. Peter and Paul’s ministries in Rome; 2. In that sense, our prayers really make a difference in the course of world history because God's actions can be contingent upon how he knew we would pray. And Scripture itself testifies to this, the same Scripture which testifies that Christian truth comes to us in two ways: through Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition (2 Thess 2:15). Not in the sense that it changes God's mind, but in the sense that God knew whether we would pray or not, and if we would pray he may have providentially decided to do certain things that he would not have done had he known we would not pray. So maybe John wrote the Gospel and then later on he thought, Oh, I forgot about this story, and in the second edition he included it in. You were using it to designate something different. How to deal with it? FACT: Yes, there are. 1. It is maybe not necessarily an error but it seems inconsistent (from what you're saying) for God to say not to kill and for God to be good but yet on the other hand have passages where he is commanding people to wipe out a particular country and those kinds of things. ….They abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not admit that the Eucharist is the Flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, thesameFleshwhichsufferedfor our sins and which the Father, in His graciousness, raised from the dead.”. It sounds like what you're saying is if the Bible is true and inerrant and there's passages in Scripture that talk about God commanding people to be killed (in the Old Testament, for example) how do we reconcile things like that? Because there are a lot of people who may not understand what you're saying. But every person I talk to, regardless of where they come from, always has some number random that's out there. Posted by 5 years ago. You can start making your way to the microphone if you’d like to ask a question. So, the Christian Bible is a product of the Church, not the other way round! [2]           https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/question-answer/slaughter-of-the-canaanites, [3]           https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/question-answer/once-more-the-slaughter-of-the-canaanites/, [4]           Total Running Time: 21:26 (Copyright © 2019 William Lane Craig). The layman is bound by the ordinances for the laity. QUESTION: How is that reflected in the character of God? QUESTION: That none of us actually exist. WHAT YOU'LL FIND HERE Welcome to ReasonableFaith.org! Therefore, it must be admitted that the Word of God as we have it in the Old Testament is not merely a Scriptural record, but rather comes to us (at least in this one case) through both Scripture as well as a living oral Tradition. For this reason, therefore, having received perfect foreknowledge, they appointed those who have already been mentioned, and afterwards added the further provision that, if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry.”. On Peter and Paul in Rome, 1 Clement 5:1 reads: “Consider the noble examples of our own generation. May God be glorified as we reclaim the mind for Christ. Using that sort of knowledge then he can providentially order the world so that your prayers really do make a difference. [16:12] “I have much more to tell you, but you cannot bear it now. I think our real enemy is not each other and debates on the age of the Earth. In other words, if God's outside of time or his relationship to time . MODERATOR: Dr. Craig, did you want to add anything? If you have a specific person you would like to address the question to, please let us know that as well. June 3, 2016. User account menu. Through countryside and city they preached; and they appointed their earliest converts, testing them by the Spirit, to be the bishops and deacons of future believers.”. The Bible, being fully inspired by God in its entirety, is His perfect Word and is the authority for all faith and life. DR. CRAIG: On the website ReasonableFaith.org, Question of the Week number 16[2] addresses this. FACT: There is also no statement within any of these New Testament books claiming that these books are Divinely-inspired. La doctrine du Sola Scriptura (locution latine signifiant l’Écriture seule), selon laquelle la Bible est l’unique autorité ultime et finale en matière de théologie, est un fondement du protestantisme depuis cinq siècles (quoique cette doctrine existait depuis l’Église primitive). This work is the first that I am aware of to combine, in one place, all of the work that has been done on this topic, but perhaps has not been presented as a single, cohesive argument. 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